Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 14, 2022
- #1
I have an XDM Elite 4.5 10mm, and have no interest in shooting weak 10mm. I'd rather the gun not beat itself up, or throw brass 30 feet, so I'd like a stronger recoil spring.
Will the Wolff springs for the XDM (pre Elite) work for the Elite?
Talyn
SAINT
Founding Member
- Aug 14, 2022
- #2
Yes. The XDm-Elite is just a slightly upgraded XDm.
Depending on what you plan on shooting I'd get this....
Recoil Calibration Paks
Stock No. 13226 - Recoil Calibration Pak - Springfield XD(M) 4.5" - Contains 1 each of the above recoil springs in 18, 20 and 22 pounds. Allows tuning of the recoil function. Three extra power striker springs are also included.
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 14, 2022
- #3
Talyn said:
Yes. The XDm-Elite is just a slightly upgraded XDm.
Depending on what you plan on shooting I'd get this....
Recoil Calibration Paks
Stock No. 13226 - Recoil Calibration Pak - Springfield XD(M) 4.5" - Contains 1 each of the above recoil springs in 18, 20 and 22 pounds. Allows tuning of the recoil function. Three extra power striker springs are also included.
Awesome, thanks. That's exactly what I was planning on getting.
As far as what I plan on shooting, I've been chronoing factory loads, and so far it looks like Magtech will be my go to.
I'll be looking for a threaded barrel, and a comp eventually.
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TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
- Aug 14, 2022
- #4
Syclone538 said:
Awesome, thanks. That's exactly what I was planning on getting.
As far as what I plan on shooting, I've been chronoing factory loads, and so far it looks like Magtech will be my go to.
I'll be looking for a threaded barrel, and a comp eventually.
Or but a glock!
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 14, 2022
- #5
TEXASforLIFE said:
Or but a glock!
I like Glock, have a couple in 9mm, but will never own one in 10mm (or .45) unless their grips get smaller, which I don't expect with the polymer clad mags.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
- Aug 14, 2022
- #6
Syclone538 said:
I like Glock, have a couple in 9mm, but will never own one in 10mm (or .45) unless their grips get smaller, which I don't expect with the polymer clad mags.
They come with 3 backstraps for different sizes.
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
- Aug 14, 2022
- #7
As strange as it sounds I own more glocks on this site than anyone else and the includes @BET7 . At last count it was by 1. I have several and all have the largest backstrap on them and some have those rubber overmolded grips. Are you just liking the smaller frames like 9mm, 357sig and 40s&w better for your grip?
BET7
Ronin
Founding Member
- Aug 14, 2022
- #8
TEXASforLIFE said:
As strange as it sounds I own more glocks on this site than anyone else and the includes @BET7
. At last count it was by 1. I have several and all have the largest backstrap on them and some have those rubber overmolded grips. Are you just liking the smaller frames like 9mm, 357sig and 40s&w better for your grip?
I only have 9
TEXASforLIFE
Ronin
- Aug 14, 2022
- #9
BET7 said:
I only have 9
You're up by 2 now and I probably won't buy any more! I don't want a 22 or a 45gap. I might get the 17L, 34, 24 and/or 35 only because of the longer slides. I do have longer barrels in each of the cartridges for each model. I'm more into building bolt actions and maybe a few more AR's.
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 14, 2022
- #10
TEXASforLIFE said:
They come with 3 backstraps for different sizes.
TEXASforLIFE said:
As strange as it sounds I own more glocks on this site than anyone else and the includes @BET7
. At last count it was by 1. I have several and all have the largest backstrap on them and some have those rubber overmolded grips. Are you just liking the smaller frames like 9mm, 357sig and 40s&w better for your grip?
To me, the Gen 3 9mm grip is too big, but acceptable. The Gen 4 9mm with no added backstrap is a little big, but not bad. The Gen 4 10mm is to big, unacceptable.
The XDME 10mm is a little big, but acceptable.
The M&P 10mm was odd. Glocks are like a 2x4, this was like a 1x4, except in the back of the grip with the oddly thick palm swell. I literally didn't think i was holding a double stack 10mm, I looked at it to make sure they handed me the correct gun. If they were reliable, I'd have tried to talk someone at a gun store into swapping one to the thinnest palm swell and letting me hold it. I'm pretty sure that's what I'd have ended up with.
BET7
Ronin
Founding Member
- Aug 14, 2022
- #11
TEXASforLIFE said:
You're up by 2 now and I probably won't buy any more! I don't want a 22 or a 45gap. I might get the 17L, 34, 24 and/or 35 only because of the longer slides. I do have longer barrels in each of the cartridges for each model. I'm more into building bolt actions and maybe a few more AR's.
Yeah, I haven’t bought a Glock for a while now. My collection probably includes more Sigs than any other Manufacturer, but I do have a lot of S&Ws as well.
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 14, 2022
- #12
I ordered the kit with 3 springs. I'll install the stiffest, and see if it will cycle and if the slide will lock back on empty with my weakest 10mm, Hornady/S&B.
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Superzuki
Elite
- Aug 15, 2022
- #13
I bought a Springer Precision solid stainless guide rod and an ISMI 20 pound spring.
2 reasons: I don't care for the captured recoil assembly and the heavier spring.
I like the way it works, for me.
https://shop.springerprecision.com/xdm-stainless-guide-rods-factory-replacement/
I've also changed out the RSA in 3 Sig P320's.
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 22, 2022
- #14
Got my springs. Did a quick search and didn't come across how to change it/how to get the guide rod apart?
Talyn
SAINT
Founding Member
- Aug 22, 2022
- #15
As per above get a Springer Precision solid stainless guide rod & save the OEM unit as a spare.
Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 22, 2022
- #16
Talyn said:
As per above get a Springer Precision solid stainless guide rod & save the OEM unit as a spare.
So the factory guide rod doesn't come apart?
Syclone538
Operator
Talyn
SAINT
Founding Member
- Aug 22, 2022
- #18
Syclone538 said:
So the factory guide rod doesn't come apart?
The XDm recoil spring/guide rod unit is a permanent captive spring and compressible guide rod assembly.
You have to go with an aftermarket guide rod that allows you to replace the recoil springs as needed.
Estimated OEM unit life is ~10k rds.
Talyn
SAINT
Founding Member
- Aug 22, 2022
- #19
Syclone538 said:
Found the answer. Springer says their springs work with the factory XDM rod, but not the XDME rod. Wolff doesn't mention the XDME at all, and they must not plan on replying to my email from August 2nd.
I don't know why Springer is saying that since there's no difference between a pre-Elite XDm and an XDm-Elite recoil spring assembly.
The XDm-Elite is a slightly upgraded XDm. The only differences between the two are a couple extra features.
My XDm 5.25 10mm has a OEM captive unit, and the newer XDm-Elite 4.5 has the same frame except for the new Elite features.
Since you have the spring pack, just order a aftermarket guide rod to use them & use the OEM for a back-up.
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Syclone538
Operator
- Aug 22, 2022
- #20
Talyn said:
I don't know why Springer is saying that since there's no difference between a pre-Elite XDm and an XDm-Elite recoil spring assembly.
The XDm-Elite is a slightly upgraded XDm. The only differences between the two are a couple extra features.
My XDm 5.25 10mm has a OEM captive unit, and the newer XDm-Elite 4.5 has the same frame except for the new Elite features.
Have you taken it apart and replaced the spring?
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